The Ring of Invisibility

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Neo Plotinus
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In the Republic of Plato, there is a story told to us by one of the Disciples of Socrates: Glaucon (known to be the elder brother of Plato) he teaches us the the nature of the Ego when it is given any sort of power.

"The liberty which we are supposing may be most completely given to them in the form of such a power as is said to have been possessed by Gyges, the ancestor of Croesus the Lydian. According to the tradition, Gyges was a shepherd in the service of the king of Lydia; there was a great storm, and an earthquake made an opening in the earth at the place where he was feeding his flock. Amazed at the sight, he descended into the opening, where, among other marvels, he beheld a hollow brazen horse, having doors, at which he stooping and looking in saw a dead body of stature, as appeared to him, more than human, and having nothing on but a gold ring; this he took from the finger of the dead and reascended.

Now the shepherds met together, according to custom, that they might send their monthly report about the flocks to the king; into their assembly he came having the ring on his finger, and as he was sitting among them he chanced to turn the collet of the ring inside his hand, when instantly he became invisible to the rest of the company and they began to speak of him as if he were no longer present. He was astonished at this, and again touching the ring he turned the collet outwards and reappeared; he made several trials of the ring, and always with the same result–when he turned the collet inwards he became invisible, when outwards he reappeared. Whereupon he contrived to be chosen one of the messengers who were sent to the court; whereas soon as he arrived he seduced the queen, and with her help conspired against the king and slew him, and took the kingdom. Suppose now that there were two such magic rings, and the just put on one of them and the unjust the other; no man can be imagined to be of such an iron nature that he would stand fast in justice.

No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a God among men. Then the actions of the just would be as the actions of the unjust; they would both come at last to the same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great proof that a man is just, not willingly or because he thinks that justice is any good to him individually, but of necessity, for wherever any one thinks that he can safely be unjust, there he is unjust.

For all men believe in their hearts that injustice is far more profitable to the individual than justice, and he who argues as I have been supposing, will say that they are right. If you could imagine any one obtaining this power of becoming invisible, and never doing any wrong or touching what was another’s, he would be thought by the lookers-on to be a most wretched idiot, although they would praise him to one another’s faces, and keep up appearances with one another from a fear that they too might suffer injustice. Enough of this."


To conclude, Socrates ultimately argues that justice does not derive from this social construct but the man who abused the power of the Ring of Gyges has in fact enslaved himself to his appetites, while the man who chose not to use it remains rationally in control of himself and is therefore happy...
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This is true indeed. I love this story.
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Enlightening story...have you maybe studied Timaeus by Plato where he describes the nature of demiurge?
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disciple wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:42 pm
Enlightening story...have you maybe studied Timaeus by Plato where he describes the nature of demiurge?
From what I can recall, the Demiurge is known throughout Western Philosophy as the creator of all things. Correct?
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Neo Plotinus wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:41 pm
disciple wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:42 pm
Enlightening story...have you maybe studied Timaeus by Plato where he describes the nature of demiurge?
From what I can recall, the Demiurge is known throughout Western Philosophy as the creator of all things. Correct?
Yes, it goes hand it hand with the teachings of the gnostics who call him Yaldabaoth.
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Neo Plotinus
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You could potentially connect it to the creator of all things from the manichean teachings and Allah knows best
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