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Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:23 pm
by Aunslaught ihd
aliwaley wrote:MashAllah , Aunslaught ihd
marvellous answer that is
may Allah bless you

JazakAllah khair, and all Praise is to Allah for the provision of compelling evidence Alhamdulillah.

May Allah bless you too and all the Ansar, and make us of His true Ansar Insha'Allah. Ameen

Fi Aman Illah

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:15 pm
by aliwaley
Aunslaught ihd wrote:
aliwaley wrote:MashAllah , Aunslaught ihd
marvellous answer that is
may Allah bless you

JazakAllah khair, and all Praise is to Allah for the provision of compelling evidence Alhamdulillah.

May Allah bless you too and all the Ansar, and make us of His true Ansar Insha'Allah. Ameen

Fi Aman Illah


Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:11 pm
by zizzou
Mashallah Mashallah. Brother Aunslaught May Allah bless you for such an informative post.

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:35 pm
by Aunslaught ihd
Alhamdulillah. MashAllah La Mashannaas. MashAllah wa in kare hannaas.

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:04 pm
by mustafashaban1234
hehehehehe, atleast give credit to the guy who created the post! :D

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:19 pm
by 2012mufc
Aunslaught ihd wrote:
mustafashaban1234 wrote:what are 10 undisputable logical reasons why I should accept Ahmad Al Hassan as Yamani?

What are 10 authentic hadith pointing to the true nature of Yamani and Ahmad Al Hassan? If possible mention why other hadith stating the contrary would be false.

What are his 10 most important lessons?

Bismillah Hir Rahman Irr Rahim.

Before I begin, let me tell you that I am not as knowledgeable an Ansar as many here, but I will try my best to convey the knowledge that I possess.

Logical Reasons:

1. The Yamani is a sign of Allah. A proof of Him, a Hujjat of Him, as described in Ahadith. Bear in mind the Yamani is not Imam Mahdi (a.s). The Blessed Yamani is the Messenger of Imam Mahdi (a.s). This man is to come at the end times. Read this Hadith:

"Hijaz (Saudi Arabia) will be ruled by a man whose name is the name of an animal, when you see him from a distance, you would think he has a lazy eye, and if you get close to him, you do not see anything (wrong) in his eyes. He will be succeeded by a brother of his, named Abdullah. Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! - he repeated it three times - Give me the good news of his death, and I shall give you the good news of the appearance of the hujjah (Imam Mahdi)."
Reference: Two Hundred and Fifty Signs, sign number 122

It is the lifetime of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. He will die soon one day. When he dies the Imam (a.j.t.f) will come. But before he (a.s) is destined to come, the Yamani is to come, as the appearance of the Yamani is a sign of the Imam's (a.j.t.f) coming. Thus, the Yamani should come during/before King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia's lifetime.

Ahmad Al Hasan is the only man with clear proofs who has claimed to be the Yamani.

2. We find in the Ahadith that the Yamani can not be an imposter. The A'aimah have warned us against false Prophets and the Sufyani and Dajjal, but not a false Yamani. There is a clear Hadith about how a Yamani can not be a false Yamani.

"This matter will not be claimed by anyone except the rightful owner, whoever does it Allah will cut off his age."

Al-Kafi v.1 373

3. In this time and age the scholars are corrupt. As logic can not be separated from Ahadith, I will post a Hadith regarding this here as well.

“There will come a time upon my Ummah (nation) when:
Their rulers will be cruel; their scholars will be greedy and lack piety; their worshippers will be hypocrites; their merchants will indulge in usury and conceal the defects of their transactions; and their women will be busy with the ornaments of the world.
Hence, at this time, the most vicious of them will dominate over them; and their good doers will invoke (pray) but they will not be answered”. (Bihar al-Anwaar)

The Yamani (a.s) and Imam Mahdi (a.s) will be persecuted by the scholars. Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s) openly denounces the scholars, and has been persecuted as Sistani and Sherazi have released Fatwa to kill him. Thus we realize that logically, he is as the Yamani should be concerning the corrupt scholars of the end times.

4. It is a known fact that Sistani and Sherazi have issued Fatwas to kill Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s). Why is this? There is only one reason. He claims to have a connection with the Imam (a.j.t.f) and can talk to him, as a Yamani should and does. So why the enmity? Why the jealousy? Where are Sistani's and Sherazi's proofs against him? Only one Zaeef Hadith that states that nobody can meet the Imam.

Logic: The Yamani is a Messenger of the Imam (a.s). It's a fact from Ahadith. Now how can a Messenger not be in contact with him who's message he brings? Even Musa (a.s) spoke to God, who's Messenger he was.

So why the Fatwa?

Logic: Because of domination. The scholars dominate the Ummah. The Yamani (a.s) and Mahdi (a.s) are supposed to be the leaders of the end times. And the scholars are corrupt at the end times. So out of fear and greed, the Fatwa have been released. As brother Jav3d pointed out, it's extremely illogical to believe that after around 1200 years of Imam Mahdi's (a.s) Major Occultation beginning that the scholars in Islam would not get corrupted.

[2:27] But the chiefs of those who disbelieved from among his people said: We do not consider you but a mortal like ourselves, and we do not see any have followed you but those who are the meanest of us at first thought and we do not see in you any excellence over us; nay, we deem you liars.

[2:246] Have you not considered the chiefs of the children of Israel after Musa, when they said to a prophet of theirs: Raise up for us a king, (that) we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[7:90] And the chiefs of those who disbelieved from among his people said: If you follow Shu'aib, you shall then most surely be losers

Hence proving the authenticity of Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s).

[25:8] Or (why is not) a treasure sent down to him, or he is made to have a garden from which he should eat? And the unjust say: You do not follow any but a man deprived of reason.

5. Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s) has claimed to be the Yamani (a.s). Either he is true, or he is a liar. If he was a liar, we find that his motivation to have lied would be for power, money and fame out of greed. If he is true, we find that his motivation would be from Allah Himself, as a Hujjah and as an authority prescribed by the Almighty.

Now having established that, I ask you one thing. Has he obtained the power and money? Is he living a life of ease? Or is he in hiding? His freedom to openly show his identity has been snatched by the scholars. If a follower of Sistani finds out who he is, he will kill him. Why would Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s) have done this if he was a liar? He was even given a chance by the Iraqis to step down if he was lying, yet he didn't. Why would a man who wants power cause his life to be such that he must go to hiding?

Thus, we find that his motivation is not out of greed. It is out of truth, and justice from Allah Himself.

6. It is agreed between Shias and Sunnis that one who sees the Prophet (pbuh) in his dream has indeed seen the Prophet, because the Satan can not imitate him. In Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari we also find this.

Abu Huraira (ra) narrates: The Prophet (pbuh) said: "Whoever has seen me in a dream, has in fact seen me, for Satan does not appear in my form" (Sahih Muslim, vol. 4 p 1225 no 5635)

"Whoever sees me in a dream will see me when awake, and Satan cannot imitate me in form" [Bukhari vol. 9 p 104 no 122]

Well, dear brothers and sisters, there are Ansar who have seen the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself in their dream urging them to follow Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s).

Allah shows signs. The signs in the heavens and the earth point to what He wants man to follow.

He never leaves His people without signs to distinguish between right and wrong.

Well, here is another miraculous sign pointing towards the authenticity of the Yamani Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s)


And there's this amazing one, Alhamdulillah:


And many have seen Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s) in their dreams as well. Allah does send signs to those who require them to follow the truth.

7. Now, we know one thing about writers and poets: That when we read their works, there is always the essence of their egos in their writing. It seems inevitable, but the fact is a writer or poet is distinguished in their work from other writers because of their own egos.
And we see in Sura Shuara:
[26:224] And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them:
[26:225] Seest thou not that they wander distracted in every valley?-
[26:226] And that they say that which they do not do,

The above Ayaat are bewildering, and would make us assume that poets are evil-but are they? The following ayat says:
26:227] Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!

And so, we now see that there are two kinds of poets: The evil ones, who write through their EGOS. And the faithful ones, who write through the voice of GOD.

Now I ask you, where do we find the essence of faithful writing? In the words of Muhammad, the sermons of Ali, the supplications of Imam Sajjad, peace be to them all.

So this divine essence is there because there can only be one of the two, either ego or Godwariness.
Have you read Ahmad Al-Hasan's books? Heard his sermons?
They have the same flavour as the writings in Nahjol Balagha. He writes apart from ego, his words are inspiration from the All mighty.

I ask you, truly, would Allah send a liar possessing such knowledge, humility, grace and eloquence to deceive us? Allah is Just and Merciful. He knows that man is weak. Allah would only send a man with such qualities from Himself with truth, as an authority and not as a liar. Indeed, Ahmad Al Hassan's (a.s) degree of eloquence and wisdom astounds the wise, and he possesses the degree of virtue the Yamani is destined to possess.

8. Imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s) has talked about this Ayat:

Bismillah Hir rahman Irr Rahim

"They ask you about the hour, when it will come." (Surah 79, Ayat 42).

In which he said it was about Imam Mahdi (a.s).

[spoiler]Reported on the authority of Al-Mufaddal Bin Omar, he said: I
asked my Master As-Sadiq (AS): Will the awaited and anticipated
Imam Al-Mahdi (AS) appear at a specific time that is known to
people? He answered: [Allah forbid the time of the appearance
of Al-Mahdi be known to our Shi’a. I said: Why is that, Master?
He answered: Because he is the Hour that Allah Almighty was
referring to when He said: {They ask you about the Hour: When
will it come? Say: The knowledge of it is only with my Lord; none
but He shall manifest it at its time; it will be momentous in
Heavens and on Earth; it will not come on you but of a sudden.
They ask you as if you were solicitous about it. Say: Its
knowledge is with Allah alone, but most people do not know.} Al-A’raf (The Heights): 187.

He is also the Hour that Allah Almighty mentioned: {They ask
you about the Hour: When will it come?}
An-Nazi’at (Those Who Drag Forth): 42.
He said: {The
knowledge of the Hour is only with Him}. Thus, He did not say
that someone else has the knowledge of the Hour, but He said:
{They wait not but for the Hour, that it should come upon them
suddenly. The signs thereof have already come. But of what
avail will their admonition be to them when it has actually come
upon them?}
Muhammad (Muhammad): 18

He said as well: {The Hour drew nigh and the
moon cleft in twain}
- Al-Qamar (The Moon): 1.
And said: {And what will make you
understand? Perchance the Hour is nigh!}
Al-Ahzab (The Clans): 63

, {Those who do not believe in it would hasten it on, and those who believe are in
fear of it, and they know that it is the Truth. Now most surely
those who dispute obstinately concerning the Hour are far
astray.} Ash-Shura (Consultation): 18.
- Bihar Al-Anwar, by Ulemah Al-Majlisi, vol. 53, p. 1.[/spoiler]

Then logic states that the hour is generally taken in skepticism by the people. As is the Call of Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s), which is taken in skepticism and is the Call of the Yamani. Hence the pattern of the Hujjah of the End Times, to be taken in skepticism.

The truth was never going to be accepted by the majority. You will find the people of the Prophet's (pbut) being few. In Hazrat Lut's (a.s) time, it was only one house. In Hazrat Nuh's (a.s) time, his own son wasn't of them. This is the case with Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s), that few accept him, and many are skeptical.

Allah says:
[2:147] "The Truth is from thy Lord; so be not at all in doubt."

I remember that only 10000 + 313 people will accept the Yamani. These numbers seem appropriate when it comes to Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s), because many reject him, while only a few accept him.

9. In Karbala, Imam Husayn (a.s) addressed the army of Yazid in a way that was remarkable. During his addressing them, he said one particular thing which was very logical.

"Did I make Haram Halal for you and Halal Haram for you?"

This indicates that when one makes Halal Haram and Haram Halal, he is guilty and not worthy to be sworn allegiance (given Bayt) to.

This logic must be applied in the analysis of any Hujjat of Allah, of any authority sent from Allah. Peace be on Imam Husayn (a.s) for laying this foundation down for us.

Now when we analyse the Yamani Ahmad Al Hassan's (a.s) teachings, we do not find any Halal made Haram, nor do we find any Haram made Halal. Indeed, among his teachings are Hijab, piety, fearing of Allah, worshiping of Allah and many more.

Compare that to the Raelians or to Yahweh or a liar like them. Logic states that Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s) calls to God, as do his actions and teachings, and he is indeed how the Yamani should be in that aspect.

10. Allah's authority and His Grace does not change. Now when He sent His people in the past, people mocked them and rejected them on the basis of some allegations. Ahmad Al Hassan (a.s) is a person sent from Allah, and when people mock him and reject him, they also reject him on the basis of some allegations.

"...and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah." [Surah 33: Ayat 62]

"(This is Our) course with regard to those of Our messengers whom We sent before you, and you shall not find a change in Our course." [17:77]

Let's use logic, reasoning and analysis to dissect what is said in both cases.

a. What the rejectors say to him (as):

The grand scholars do not say this.

What the rejectors say to the Prophets (as)

[11:38] And he began to make the ark; and whenever the chiefs from among his people passed by him they laughed at him. He said: If you laugh at us, surely we too laugh at you as you laugh (at us).

What they say to him (as):

You're insane. (this has actually happened a lot to those spreading the Dawah)

What they say to the Prophets (as):

[15:6] And they say: O you to whom the Reminder has been revealed! you are most surely insane:

[51:39] But he turned away with his forces and said: A magician or a mad man

What they say to him (as):

The dreams people see of him are fake, the signs aren't directed towards him and the people who see them are confused.

What they say to the Prophets (as):

[21:5] Nay! say they: Medleys of dreams; nay! he has forged it; nay! he is a poet; so let him bring to us a sign as the former (prophets) were sent (with).

What they say to him (as):

We'll wait till the Imam (a.j.t.f) comes himself and clears it all up.

What the Quran says about those who were heedless of warnings:

[37:177] But when it descends into the open space before them, evil will be the morning for those who were warned (and heeded not)!

What they say to him (as):

We don't know of any Yamani who will come, nobody told us to wait for him.

What they say to the Prophets (as):

[45:32] And when it was said, Surely the promise of Allah is true and as for the hour, there is no doubt about it, you said: We do not know what the hour is; we do not think (that it will come to pass) save a passing thought, and we are not at all sure.

What they say to him (as):

Our fathers were Muslim too, they never heard of a Yamani and we haven't either.

What they say to the Prophets (as):

[5:104] And when it is said to them, Come to what Allah has revealed and to the Messenger, they say: That on which we found our fathers is sufficient for us. What! even though their fathers knew nothing and did not follow the right way.

What they say to him (as):

]Why should we take you seriously? Allah wouldn't have sent a person like you, what makes you so special? And they block out any thoughts of him (as).

What is said about them regarding how they take the Message of the Prophets (as):

[43:31] And they say: Why was not this Quran revealed to a man of importance in the two towns?

And that is 10 logics of the logics you will find if you go down the path of the Yamani, towards the banner of Truth Insha'Allah, if you recognize and thank Allah for the signs.

[45:3] Most surely in the heavens and the earth there are signs for the believers.

[45:4] And in your (own) creation and in what He spreads abroad of animals there are signs for a people that are sure;

[45:5] And (in) the variation of the night and the day, and (in) what Allah sends down of sustenance from the cloud, then gives life thereby to the earth after its death, and (in) the changing of the winds, there are signs for a people who understand.

[45:6] These are the communications of Allah which We recite to you with truth; then in what announcement would they believe after Allah and His communications?

[45:7] Woe to every sinful liar,

[45:8] Who hears the communications of Allah recited to him, then persists proudly as though he had not heard them; so announce to him a painful punishment.

[45:9] And when he comes to know of any of Our communications, he takes it for a jest; these it is that shall have abasing chastisement.

[45:10] Before them is hell, and there shall not avail them aught of what they earned, nor those whom they took for
guardians besides Allah, and they shall have a grievous punishment.

[45:11] This is guidance; and (as for) those who disbelieve in the communications of their Lord, they shall have a painful punishment on account of uncleanness.

sistani hasn't issued a fatwa to kill him, that is a LIE, I called up Najaf and they were baffled of how this rumour came about, don't spread lies please!

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:31 pm
by HussainTheShortcomer
2012mufc wrote:sistani hasn't issued a fatwa to kill him, that is a LIE, I called up Najaf and they were baffled of how this rumour came about, don't spread lies please!

Salam brother,

Please come with an open mind, so far you are suggesting there is no evidence for this and it is all rumours. Please take a look at this thread showing Iraqi newspapers that say Sistani took part and ordered the attack on Hussaineyas (masjids) and also to kill the Imam. The only response to these newspapers is: "These newspapers are lying." which is very silly indeed when the very same people who say this use the Iraqi newspaper to try to falsely accuse the Ansar, where is the logic in that?


If you have questions just pm zolfigar he will be happy to help I'm sure :).

Fi amman Allah

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:54 pm
by waleedAhlulKa'aba
2012mufc wrote:sistani hasn't issued a fatwa to kill him, that is a LIE, I called up Najaf and they were baffled of how this rumour came about, don't spread lies please!

mufc you must understand... if your dealing with Satan or any other dajjal you cant rely on going and asking him, hes just gonna lie and use deception and evasiveness. While we dont have the fatwa, it is obvious that he did issue the opinion of not only opposing the Yamani (as) but also attempting to actively destroy the (physical and intelectual) foundations of the da'awa by supporting false acusations and rumours that were used to attacked the Ansar and their buildings - which is what these articles reveal. He is the head of religious input into the government, and there is clearly an agreement between them, the attackers and media that Ahmad (as) is an imposter that must be taken down for no reason.

Ofcourse no one can take down the da'awah, its supported by God, archangels and the prophets and successors, it has extreme wisdom and divine knowledge that only a Hujja could come to us with. They failed to stop the spread of the da'awa, in a very similiar fashion that jewish scholars failed to stop Jesus's message or tribal leaders trying to stop Muhammed's (sawas) da'awa.

This is from the interview with Imam Ahmad (as):
Q15/ some accuse that the supreme council, Bader organization and even the Iranian organization are trying to restrain some of the shitte adverse movements? What do you think?
According to this council and its divisions, I will tell you an incident so that the speech is authenticated. In the past month of Thul-hija which is approximately two months ago, a conference had been held in al Najaf and they asked some of the Shia scholars (almaragi’) agencies in this conference to fight against this call. it has been broadcasted on the satellite channels and after some days from this request the unfair authority in al Najaf attacked the supporters, arrested them and shut down their office.

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:19 pm
by popcorn
:ugeek: Man's mind is like a store of idolatry and superstition; so much so that if a man believes his own mind it is certain that he will forsake God and forge some idol in his own brain :ugeek:

:ugeek: Every one of us is, even from his mother's womb, a master craftsman of idols :ugeek:

:ugeek: But those who wish to prove to unbelievers that Scripture is the Word of God are acting foolishly, for only by faith can this be known :ugeek:

some keywords from one well educated person to some obsessive compulsive uneducated oriental brothers and sisters.

(respect to the freedom of speech is being carefully monitored)

Re: 10 Reasons and hadith to Beleive Ahmad Al Hassan

PostPosted:Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:46 am
by Al-Shahab
King Abdullah, he is so sick and weak, he could die any second... looking at the political situation and especially at that one hadeeth... who can call all of this a coincidence any longer?